[GAP Forum] ring theory

Igor Korepanov paloff at ya.ru
Sat Jan 22 16:51:17 GMT 2011


Dear Alexander,

Please don't get angry. I and my team like GAP - because I think it is aesthetical - and just want it to become (even) better.

I think you must agree that, even in such trivial cases, there must be no such epic bugs as this one with rings. Of course GAP must recognize the ring of even numbers (if it is not supposed to have the unity).

With my very best wishes,

Igor

22.01.2011, 19:41, "Alexander Hulpke" <ahulpke at gmail.com>:
> Dear Forum,
>
> On Jan 21, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Igor Korepanov wrote:
>
>>  gap> r := Ring( 10, 12 );
>>  <ring with 2 generators>
>>  gap> 10 in r;
>>
>>  - and GAP is still thinking over this very profound question.
>>  What did I miss?
>
> The element test implemented fro rings in GAP first determines the element list of the ring and thus does not terminate for infinite rings. While I one could combine the element test in the computation of the element list and terminate once the element has been found, this still would be unsatisfactory in any example beyond trivial ones and not terminate if the element was not in the ring.
>
> If there is a genuine need for element tests in infinite rings (beyond toy examples) I would be interested to know for what cases, since for situations such as polynomial rings alternatives might be possible.
>
> Best,
>
>    Alexander Hulpke



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